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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 14, 2013 7:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Don’t ask me where this thought came from, if I knew I’d have already tracked it down and beaten it senseless so it wouldn’t happen again. As it is, either bear with me or just skip this all together.

As we discussed the issue of “poser” Heads vs. the true veterans, I was brought back to my early days with the band, my first live experiences and a pair of pants.
These pants had been given to me by my elder brother, who had recently gotten out of the service. They were authentic US Army issue camo pants. Loved ‘em, and probably mostly because I thought they added to my overall coolness (hey, I’m pretty sure most of us have had a moment or two like that). All pockets, tie-strings and suburban assault mojo; I was sure I was pretty damn cool in those bad boys.
Well, along comes my first Dead show and I figure these pants were tailor made for such an event. I mean, think of all the stuff I could carry in all those cavernous pockets! Needless to say I was convinced that I possessed the ultimate concert attire. This all worked out pretty well until the first tab kicked in.
If I recall correctly it was somewhere early in the first set and things were getting out of focus when a thought flitted across my altered consciousness “Hey, are we sure we know where the car keys are?”. What followed could best be described as a frenzied search of what seemed an infinite number of pockets, with the sense of urgency and impending doom increasing as each cargo space failed to produce anything close to keys. Lighters, pipes, ticket stubs, 35mm film canisters, wallet, change, receipt for an overpriced bumper sticker, half eaten stale bagel, a piece of paper and a pencil (gotta keep track of the set list for some serious over-analysis later), rudimentary directions written on the back of a pack of Camels to my friend’s sister’s apartment where we would be crashing…any number of random items, none of which came close to being car keys. If I recall correctly, I went through those pockets 4 or 5 times before I located the keys. Sure, I was about as happy as any sentient being could be when I located them, but it came with a hefty fuckin’ fee. Every 5 or 10 minutes I found myself having to run through almost the same procedure just to make sure they were still there. This “concern” was enough to take my full attention off the show at almost regular intervals. Now, I suppose had it been 1973, the power of the music would have taken that insecurity out to the tool shed and beaten it bloody, but being in the mid-80’s, the music was too concerned with not falling asleep to worry about me and my absentee keys. This experience forced me to re-consider what was really necessary.
With each subsequent show, I found myself bringing less and less “stuff” which meant I no longer needed those menacing pockets. Pretty soon the only thing I brought was some cash, my ID, a lighter and, of course, my keys. I found these items were more than adequate to get me through a show and only required a couple of pockets for storage. It’s always been my feeling that the naked-pole dude from Veneta 72 had a similar experience, but had been so traumatized by his bottomless key-swallowing pockets that he took things to the extreme and found that absolutely no pockets was the way to go (I guess you could say that he still carried a couple of sacks with him though).

What I’m getting at here (yes, my gentle snowflakes, we are close to the end) is that as a “newbie”, I thought it of the utmost importance that I come well stocked to shows just in case I needed something. It was my goal to be a 7-11 with feet.
As I matured and got into the “flow”, I realized the stuff was only a hindrance and could take away from my overall concert experience. It was the music and the people that were the key, not the keys. Perhaps this was a necessary part of my journey to getting “it”.
Having found this place and spend so much time re-listening to the music, as well as participating in some great discussions, I feel that my journey to getting “it” is ongoing and may never end. In fact, I think that if I every fully got “it”, I would be almost sad, just as you are when you finish a particularly good novel. You eagerly anticipate the ending, wanting to see how it all wraps up, but when you get to the end and all the questions have been answered, you only want more.
Lucky for us though, I’m pretty sure this reaching of the end will never happen. With each colossal Darkstar, each pristine Birdsong, each thundering Other One I am learning new things, hearing new things, finding new pieces of “it”.

OK, back to work.


This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2013-02-14 15:17:54

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

WHO hasn't considered the "am I cool yet?" issue?

Well, Rose and RingleeO I suppose? That's what good looks do for you, eh?

But, for us mere mortals--or should I say the "boys"--it was of constant concern at the time of our interest in the band.

I'll never forget a pysch major (grad school) making the point that most of "us" (70s) had long hair in no way, shape or form as an act of rebellion: it was, as he said forcefully, "to get chicks". Think about it--when I cut my really long hair (yes, for bball) at 16 yrs, it was a hugely "uncool" move...I realized then I'd had long hair to be like my bros, to be cool.

As for the shows, I did stray from the jeans, t-shirt, tennis shoes motif by picking up (from Goodwill) a nice used Cowboy Shirt, and fit right in with Bob and Jerry from the S&R pic, ya know?

Otherwise, I only took my wallet and car keys into a show, along with the sm bottle of So Comfort, almost alwasy "found" at the door and thrown out (thought of lots of places to put it, but "luck" was all that explained it making it in...).

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Feb 14, 2013 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

My trick is to put the keys away while still "straight" and then don't even think about them again until its time to find the car...chances are if you can find the car you can find the keys and vis-versa. A good sobriety test.

The worst thing you can do is to take them out and handle them while in a state of uncertain mental capacity. That is how they get lost, because then you have no idea what happened to them or if you even had them or if you are actually even here...or where here really is...next thing you know you are twirling.

I had to walk the streets of SF after a Warfield show for a few hours trying to find my car. The problem turned out to be that I would always turn around thinking I had gone too far - psychedelic time warp -turned out I was only walking 2 or 3 blocks before freaking out and turning around and going back to the Warfield and then starting over again. I finally walked just another block and there it was right where I left it. The drive back home on the bay bridge was like a video game at 4am. Just me and my car and all the pretty lights. I must admit that some of the very best times I had at a show were when I went alone, I could be anyone I wanted, no one was thinking - he sure is acting strange tonight. Freedom!

we smuggled in a whole 12 pack and an ice chest to a Hampton show in '86. The folks around us were impressed.

Two big guys with a 6 pack each strapped to their backs and one mule carrying an empty cooler...the mule went in 10 folks behind us. She said they were confused but had no rule against an empty cooler so they let it pass.

Once inside we scored ice from the vendors and VIOLA - a cooler full of Bud on ice. We traded a few for whip-its. It was more for the "we did it" thing than anything else. After a few hundred concerts you need to add some spice to keep it interesting.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Apparently your love of the beverage didn't approach this man's commitment to his phone:

http://pix11.com/2013/02/11/prisoner-smuggles-cell-phone-in-rectum-gets-busted-after-receiving-booty-call/#axzz2Ktl11bEw

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Ha! ONe look at the "title" and I decided not to "click" (I found the best approach was taping it to the small of your back...above beltline, but they even felt there sometimes!).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 6:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Oh yeah right. Girls don't worry about being cool. "What do I wear?" is only a guy question.

My version of the Overstuffed Pockets was on the way to my first "road trip" -- which was only maybe 2-3 hours away, but it felt like some kind of amazing adventure. So I helpfully showed up at the car with this huge grocery bag full of the most ridiculous picnic supplies. Basically everything my mom would have brought: Wheat Thins, Triscuits, dip, etc. For all I know I had little carrot sticks and radish flowers. I guess I thought we might be snowed in en route and living on my supplies for a week. We really had to squeeze into the car to fit around the Gigantic Bottomless Mom Bag.



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

>"What do I wear?" is only a guy question.

And who do a majority of women concerned with such questions dress for if not themselves? Men or other women? I would argue the latter, by far.



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Oh, I don't think it's as simple as "men, other women or yourself." When I was 20, if there was a guy I liked, I'm sure I cared about what he'd think. But at the same time I doubt I ever thought that a guy would look at some scarf I had on and think, "Wow, that looks great, I really want to go out with her because she has such excellent taste in scarves." Uh huh.

I think everyone wants to look "good," whatever their age/lifestyle/gender/etc., and that means the judgment of others, consciously or not. If people paid no attention to others at all, well, today I might put on an Edwardian tea gown because it would be so pretty. But unfortunately I would look insane. So I wouldn't. Also my closet is unfortunately thin on Edwardian tea gowns.

But the key thing about those vague theoretical "Others" is that it really means "Those Others Whose Judgment Agrees with Mine Because They're So Innately Sensible." So even if you could say you're "dressing for Others," you're really dressing for yourself and your own idea of what's nice.

Well, unless you watch "What Not to Wear." And then I just can't comment cuz I don't get it at all.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I just looked up What Not to Wear and I can not help you.

My comment about who women dress for has been impressed on me by other women. Though anecdotal, it does strike me as something I've heard across time and place and generation. Maybe the flipped quarter has just come up heads 80 times in a row for me> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbInZ5oJ0bc

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I haven't seen it a lot, but my SIL loves it. I always think they start out looking better than they end up. So I guess I don't dress for the women who watch What Not to Wear. Fortunately I'm far away or I'd probably become the Lucky Recipient of a Surprise Makeover. I'd be in the show where all you see is someone running away, very fast.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 15, 2013 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Ha--well, actually, I think you and DD support my thesis (which was NOT "do both sexes care?", a truism of course, but how do they differ in this regard due to the 60s?)...specifically, what I was commenting on was the fact that in HS, in the 70s, we DEAD Heads thought we were being counter culturish, anti-establishment, blah, blah, blah, but it was far more about being cool, and appealing, and all the other guy stuff (gal stuff too).

However, the gals at Cal were far more serious about it: one (I did) only compare the guys and gals of the 70s at Cal vs ASU: huge, huge differences in dress, shaving, etc (all stereotypes apply). Guys could be swapped between those two campuses much more easily without shock than could the gals...

In any event, nothing so ironclad as my usu confidence would imply, but really, for the gals it was more of a dramatic shift than the guys, it seemed...and, they perhaps "changed more" by giving up on the "what not to wear" approach (which is western society standards, but pretty simple stuff about symetry, curves, and hair length, blah, blah)...?

Nonetheless, I would venture to say that you two may represent the dress code moreso that many of the males here? Dunno...interesting question.

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Feb 14, 2013 10:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

I have seen the show a few times and I couldn't agree more...I would be running away right along with you! I also think the women always look better before...I love my clothes and $5000 wouldn't get me to part with them...and trust me, the people on that show would get rid of just about everything I own. They would also make me cut my hair and dye it...there is no way I'm doing either of those things.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

"IT" lives. That's an interesting interpretation.

I always took the exact same thing in:

1 ticket
1 wallet
1 set of keys
1 lighter
1 pack of Camel Lights with two hooters inside. 1 to share with neighbors during opener and 1 for Space.
1 bottle of water for the walk in.


Like you, we always made an effort to reduce clutter before going in and blasting off. Less complicated is always better.



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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

Yeah, the more I thought about "It" the more I became convinced that "It" is alive and constantly growing, evolving. Just not like Stephen King's scary clown.

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Poster: wineland Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

35mm film canisters... man, that took me back.

I too arrived at the same conclusion. For years I have had a driver’s license, visa, cash and if I drive a key to the car, all packed into a skinny wallet that goes in my front pocket. Anything else on me is the extra-curriculars that are to be consumed.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 14, 2013 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

The ultimate ode to Stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom

What I brought into a show was thankfully much less than what I brought in my car...the very important things (license, key, money) were always on my person...I did what Little Sense did and once they were securely where they were supposed to be I didn't touch them unless I needed to. I also had a bag of some sort with me but I had it with the expectation that it would be lost...in that I carried oranges (vitamin C seemed a critical need), iceberg lettuce (I don't remember having water bottles back then) as a water substitute, a sweater and toilet paper...now what was in my traveling car is a whole different story....micah can attest to the amazing amount of stuff my friends and I brought on tour with us!

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Poster: itmusthavebeen Date: Feb 14, 2013 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random Thought Of The Day: The Problem With Pockets – One Head’s Journey To Freedom


'As we discussed the issue of “poser” Heads vs. the true veterans'

"issue".

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